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Enviado por el día 12 de Junio de 2004 a las 09:34
Bullfighting: A Tradition of Tragedy
Every year, approximately 35,000 bulls are tormented and
killed in bullfights in Spain alone. Although many bullfight
attendees are American tourists, 90 percent of these
tourists never return to another fight after witnessing the
relentless cruelty that takes place in the ring. Spanish
bulls and their many counterparts in Mexico and other countries are victims of a savage display disguised as "art" or "entertainment" that noted Mexican author Eduardo del Rio described as "a stumbling block for the humanization of man."
Murderous Mystique
Spanish and Mexican bullfight advertisers lure American
tourists with mystique. They claim the fight is festive, artistic,
and a fair competition between skill and force. What they do
not reveal is that the bull never has a chance to defend
himself, much less survive.
Many prominent former bullfighters report that the bull is intentionally debilitated with tranquilizers and laxatives, beatings to the kidneys, petroleum jelly rubbed into their eyes to blur vision, heavy weights hung around their neck for weeks before the fight, and confinement in darkness for hours before being released into the bright arena.
A well-known bullfight veterinarian, Dr. Manuel Sanz, reports that in 1987 more than 90 percent of bulls killed in fights had their horns "shaved" before the fight. Horn shaving involves sawing off several inches of the horns so the bull misses his thrusts at the altered angle.
The matador, two picadors on horses, and three men on foot stab the bull repeatedly when he enters the ring. After the bull has been completely weakened by fear, blood loss, and exhaustion, the matador attempts to make a clean kill with a sword to the heart. Unfortunately for the suffering bull, the matador rarely succeeds and must make several thrusts, often missing the bull's heart and piercing his lungs instead. Often a dagger must be used to cut the spinal cord and spare the audience the sight of a defenseless animal in the throes of death. The bull may still be fully conscious but paralyzed when his ears and tail are cut off as the final show of "victory."
Mexican bullfighting has an added feature: novillada, or baby bullfights. There is no ritual in this slaughter of calves. Baby bulls, some no more than a few weeks old, are brought into a small arena where they are stabbed to death by spectators, many of whom are children. These bloodbaths end with spectators hacking off the ears and tail of the often fully conscious calf lying in his own blood.
The so-called "bloodless bullfights" that are legal in many U.S. states are only slightly less barbaric than their bloody counterparts. Although the bulls in these "fights" are not killed in the ring, they are often slaughtered immediately afterward. During the fights they are tormented, teased, and terrified.
Other Victims
The bulls aren't the only victims of the intense cruelty of the
arena. According to Lyn Sherwood, publisher of an
English-language bullfight magazine, horses used in bullfights
are "shot behind the ear with dope. The horses are drugged and
blindfolded and they're knocked down a lot.". These horses,
who are often gored, usually have wet newspaper stuffed in their
ears to impair their hearing, and their vocal cords are usually cut
so their cries do not distract the crowd. Fight promoters claim
the horses are "saved" from glue factories; this means these animals are often old, tired plow horses who end up being knocked down by bulls weighing up to a half a ton.
American author Ernest Hemingway, a bullfighting aficionado, wrote in his book Death in the Afternoon, "In the tragedy of the bullfight, the horse is the comic character ... I have seen it, people running, horse emptying, one dignity after another being destroyed in the spattering and trailing of its innermost values [viscera], in a complete burlesque of tragedy. I have seen these, call them disembowellings, that is the worst word. When due to their timing, they were very funny. This is the sort of thing you should not admit, but it is because such things have not been admitted that the bullfight has never been explained."
Bull Breeding
Bulls today are specially bred for bullfighting. They are raised on 280 registered bull ranches located in various parts of Mexico. Selective breeding has enabled ranchers to create a bull who will die in a manner most satisfying to the public. Because the sight of a wounded bull desperately trying to retreat from the ring would ruin the image of the "sport," bulls are bred to return to the torture repeatedly and appear to be a wild and vicious challenge to the matador.
Growing Opposition
While its exact origins are not known, bullfighting is believed to have emerged in connection with ancient fertility rites.
In 1567, Pope Pius V decreed that "exhibitions of tortured beasts or bulls is contrary to Christian duty and piety." He called for "an end to such bloody amusements, abject and more appropriate for devils than for men." The penalty for violating this decree, which has never been repealed, is excommunication.
In 1725, bullfighting began to assume its present state when Francisco Romero invented a stick with a red cloth suspended from the end, which he used to tease and torment the bulls. Today's bullfighting maneuvers became defined in the 1700s and have changed little since.
Recent polls of Spanish citizens show they are not particularly interested in attending bullfights. Even bullfight promoter Sherwood admits "there's no way to morally justify bullfighting." But tourists' money keeps bullfight profiteers in business.
The World Society for the Protection of Animals has issued reports and made repeated verbal recommendations to national leaders in Mexico and Spain criticizing bullfighting. Colin Platt, coordinator of the WSPA's Scientific Advisory Panel, commented in a memo attached to one report that "...in over 15 years of compiling scientific reports, this one was the most distasteful subject to research--a sentiment shared by several of my colleagues on the Panel."
Many anti-bullfighting groups have sprung up worldwide, including the Spanish Alternativa Para La Liberacion Animal, the Mexican Pena Antitaurina Mexicana, the Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals in Tijuana and Mexico City, and the Anti-Bullfighting Committee in New York.
Spain's Green Party has been working with the country's Association for the Defense of Animal Rights (ADDA) to have bullfighting banned. In 1993, a petition drive by the coalition raised over one million signatures.
What You Can Do:
If you are planning to visit a country that permits or encourages bullfighting, please tell your travel agent you are opposed to animal cruelty in any form. Many tourist resorts are building bullfight arenas as part of their "recreation" facilities; refuse to stay at such a resort, and write a letter to the owner explaining why you will not stay there. Instead, visit the resort town of Tossa de Mar, which was the first town in Spain to ban bullfights and related advertising.
Tell others the facts about bullfighting and urge them to protest as well. When tourists stop attending bullfights, profiteers will stop the cruelty.
Bloody or bloodless, bullfighting is a senseless, degrading spectacle that has no place in a civilized society.
Every year, approximately 35,000 bulls are tormented and
killed in bullfights in Spain alone. Although many bullfight
attendees are American tourists, 90 percent of these
tourists never return to another fight after witnessing the
relentless cruelty that takes place in the ring. Spanish
bulls and their many counterparts in Mexico and other countries are victims of a savage display disguised as "art" or "entertainment" that noted Mexican author Eduardo del Rio described as "a stumbling block for the humanization of man."
Murderous Mystique
Spanish and Mexican bullfight advertisers lure American
tourists with mystique. They claim the fight is festive, artistic,
and a fair competition between skill and force. What they do
not reveal is that the bull never has a chance to defend
himself, much less survive.
Many prominent former bullfighters report that the bull is intentionally debilitated with tranquilizers and laxatives, beatings to the kidneys, petroleum jelly rubbed into their eyes to blur vision, heavy weights hung around their neck for weeks before the fight, and confinement in darkness for hours before being released into the bright arena.
A well-known bullfight veterinarian, Dr. Manuel Sanz, reports that in 1987 more than 90 percent of bulls killed in fights had their horns "shaved" before the fight. Horn shaving involves sawing off several inches of the horns so the bull misses his thrusts at the altered angle.
The matador, two picadors on horses, and three men on foot stab the bull repeatedly when he enters the ring. After the bull has been completely weakened by fear, blood loss, and exhaustion, the matador attempts to make a clean kill with a sword to the heart. Unfortunately for the suffering bull, the matador rarely succeeds and must make several thrusts, often missing the bull's heart and piercing his lungs instead. Often a dagger must be used to cut the spinal cord and spare the audience the sight of a defenseless animal in the throes of death. The bull may still be fully conscious but paralyzed when his ears and tail are cut off as the final show of "victory."
Mexican bullfighting has an added feature: novillada, or baby bullfights. There is no ritual in this slaughter of calves. Baby bulls, some no more than a few weeks old, are brought into a small arena where they are stabbed to death by spectators, many of whom are children. These bloodbaths end with spectators hacking off the ears and tail of the often fully conscious calf lying in his own blood.
The so-called "bloodless bullfights" that are legal in many U.S. states are only slightly less barbaric than their bloody counterparts. Although the bulls in these "fights" are not killed in the ring, they are often slaughtered immediately afterward. During the fights they are tormented, teased, and terrified.
Other Victims
The bulls aren't the only victims of the intense cruelty of the
arena. According to Lyn Sherwood, publisher of an
English-language bullfight magazine, horses used in bullfights
are "shot behind the ear with dope. The horses are drugged and
blindfolded and they're knocked down a lot.". These horses,
who are often gored, usually have wet newspaper stuffed in their
ears to impair their hearing, and their vocal cords are usually cut
so their cries do not distract the crowd. Fight promoters claim
the horses are "saved" from glue factories; this means these animals are often old, tired plow horses who end up being knocked down by bulls weighing up to a half a ton.
American author Ernest Hemingway, a bullfighting aficionado, wrote in his book Death in the Afternoon, "In the tragedy of the bullfight, the horse is the comic character ... I have seen it, people running, horse emptying, one dignity after another being destroyed in the spattering and trailing of its innermost values [viscera], in a complete burlesque of tragedy. I have seen these, call them disembowellings, that is the worst word. When due to their timing, they were very funny. This is the sort of thing you should not admit, but it is because such things have not been admitted that the bullfight has never been explained."
Bull Breeding
Bulls today are specially bred for bullfighting. They are raised on 280 registered bull ranches located in various parts of Mexico. Selective breeding has enabled ranchers to create a bull who will die in a manner most satisfying to the public. Because the sight of a wounded bull desperately trying to retreat from the ring would ruin the image of the "sport," bulls are bred to return to the torture repeatedly and appear to be a wild and vicious challenge to the matador.
Growing Opposition
While its exact origins are not known, bullfighting is believed to have emerged in connection with ancient fertility rites.
In 1567, Pope Pius V decreed that "exhibitions of tortured beasts or bulls is contrary to Christian duty and piety." He called for "an end to such bloody amusements, abject and more appropriate for devils than for men." The penalty for violating this decree, which has never been repealed, is excommunication.
In 1725, bullfighting began to assume its present state when Francisco Romero invented a stick with a red cloth suspended from the end, which he used to tease and torment the bulls. Today's bullfighting maneuvers became defined in the 1700s and have changed little since.
Recent polls of Spanish citizens show they are not particularly interested in attending bullfights. Even bullfight promoter Sherwood admits "there's no way to morally justify bullfighting." But tourists' money keeps bullfight profiteers in business.
The World Society for the Protection of Animals has issued reports and made repeated verbal recommendations to national leaders in Mexico and Spain criticizing bullfighting. Colin Platt, coordinator of the WSPA's Scientific Advisory Panel, commented in a memo attached to one report that "...in over 15 years of compiling scientific reports, this one was the most distasteful subject to research--a sentiment shared by several of my colleagues on the Panel."
Many anti-bullfighting groups have sprung up worldwide, including the Spanish Alternativa Para La Liberacion Animal, the Mexican Pena Antitaurina Mexicana, the Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals in Tijuana and Mexico City, and the Anti-Bullfighting Committee in New York.
Spain's Green Party has been working with the country's Association for the Defense of Animal Rights (ADDA) to have bullfighting banned. In 1993, a petition drive by the coalition raised over one million signatures.
What You Can Do:
If you are planning to visit a country that permits or encourages bullfighting, please tell your travel agent you are opposed to animal cruelty in any form. Many tourist resorts are building bullfight arenas as part of their "recreation" facilities; refuse to stay at such a resort, and write a letter to the owner explaining why you will not stay there. Instead, visit the resort town of Tossa de Mar, which was the first town in Spain to ban bullfights and related advertising.
Tell others the facts about bullfighting and urge them to protest as well. When tourists stop attending bullfights, profiteers will stop the cruelty.
Bloody or bloodless, bullfighting is a senseless, degrading spectacle that has no place in a civilized society.
Re: Españoles=asesinos
Enviado por el día 12 de Junio de 2004 a las 13:26
alguno de este foro,s e podria lleva r un par de cornadas no estaria mal!. Tambien hay algunos sitios que sueltan a las vaquillas las hacen correr, y no las matan, esa podria ser una solución?? allí en Valencia en en pueblo de mis primos lo hacen así, una de esas me pegó un buen revolcon!!
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Enviado por el día 12 de Junio de 2004 a las 13:29
Si las corridas de toros fueran oriundas de cataluña, estarias defendiendolas "a capa y espada", ganapán...
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Enviado por el día 12 de Junio de 2004 a las 13:34
que significa oriundas??
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Enviado por el día 12 de Junio de 2004 a las 13:38
Pero no lo son.
Ajo(derse) y agua(ntarse).
Ajo(derse) y agua(ntarse).
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Enviado por el día 12 de Junio de 2004 a las 13:39
jajajajajajaja. es decir, que estas en contra "porque sí".
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Enviado por el día 12 de Junio de 2004 a las 13:42
pero es que tu estas a favor arasou??
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Enviado por el día 12 de Junio de 2004 a las 13:45
yo no veo nunca los toros, no estoy a favor ni en contra: me la pela. Pero básicamente estoy en contra de prohibir cualquier cosa que no dañe en serio a las personas.
Por otro lado, lo de los toros ya se hacía en Creta, por ejemplo, en la edad minoica. decir que es "española", cuando es una tradicion tambien portuguesa, o provenzal, es un tanto simplista. y estar en contra simplemente porque se practica en España, es divertido. es como estar en contra de, no sé, leer a Jack Kerouac solo porque escribia en USA.
Por otro lado, lo de los toros ya se hacía en Creta, por ejemplo, en la edad minoica. decir que es "española", cuando es una tradicion tambien portuguesa, o provenzal, es un tanto simplista. y estar en contra simplemente porque se practica en España, es divertido. es como estar en contra de, no sé, leer a Jack Kerouac solo porque escribia en USA.
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Enviado por el día 12 de Junio de 2004 a las 13:49
estamos hablando de matar a seis toros porque si, porque en otros sitios cambian la vaquilla cada x tiempo, porque cojones hay que acabar matandolos??
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Enviado por el día 12 de Junio de 2004 a las 13:51
A mi no me gustan los toros, ya te lo dije. Lo que pasa es que teniendo en cuenta que yo mismo como carne y visto zapatos de piel, pues no es que pueda decir que estoy en contra de matar a esos bichos.
Lo que considero es que si hay una cultura que disfruta con eso, sin hacer daño a ninguna otra persona, pues no soy quien para prohibirlo. Yo no lo haria, pero no pienso imponerles ese escrúpulo mio.
Ademas, insisto, si eso fuera una tradicion puramente catalana, los nacionalistas matarian toros hasta completar un holocausto (palabra que sginifica: sacrificio de 100 bueyes :P).
Lo que considero es que si hay una cultura que disfruta con eso, sin hacer daño a ninguna otra persona, pues no soy quien para prohibirlo. Yo no lo haria, pero no pienso imponerles ese escrúpulo mio.
Ademas, insisto, si eso fuera una tradicion puramente catalana, los nacionalistas matarian toros hasta completar un holocausto (palabra que sginifica: sacrificio de 100 bueyes :P).
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Enviado por el día 12 de Junio de 2004 a las 13:55
creo que te equivocas, aqui habia una tradición, se tiraba una cabra desde un campanario, pues creo recordar que acabaron prohibiendola, o algo parecido, o sea , que no seas tan malos con los nacionalistas, que no matamos!!
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Enviado por el día 12 de Junio de 2004 a las 13:58
si yo procuro no ser malo con nadie, creeme. me parece fantástico que no mateis, yo no lo hago.
Pero por ejemplo, una tradicion en el pais vasco es la de cortar troncos. Troncos de árboles, porque sí, y me parece lo mismo q matar toros porque si. Y desde luego no se lo prohibiria!
Pero por ejemplo, una tradicion en el pais vasco es la de cortar troncos. Troncos de árboles, porque sí, y me parece lo mismo q matar toros porque si. Y desde luego no se lo prohibiria!
